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Post by Haldir on Jul 18, 2006 13:50:45 GMT -5
Well, I dont understand something...why didnt Aragorn fall to the ground like Pipin did? He actually did ... he slumped back sort of, but I think nothing really happened to him because he is more resistant to evil (having been trained) and more experienced towards things like that ... so I think that's why... and he didn't look directly into the Palantír, I don't think. |
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Post by Telpeath on Jul 18, 2006 21:59:57 GMT -5
Well, he seemed to because the evenstar, the pendent of Arwen fell. He must have looked at it for its evil to take hold.
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Post by Haldir on Jul 19, 2006 0:37:36 GMT -5
True to that ... but he's not as easily tempted and corrupted by the Palantír than most are.
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Post by Telpeath on Jul 19, 2006 11:02:19 GMT -5
So, what you are saying, is that a hobbit was overtaken by the palantir. However, yet a hobbit had enough will and strength to control the one ring when even a elf could not weild it before getting corupted. hmmm...(ponders)
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Post by Haldir on Jul 19, 2006 11:29:40 GMT -5
It wasn't the same Hobbit who looked into the Palantir as the one who was bearing the Ring. And he wasn't controlling the Ring either  |
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Post by Telpeath on Jul 19, 2006 16:43:49 GMT -5
True, for that, you deserve a Karma point! <^_^>
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Post by Haldir on Jul 19, 2006 16:44:43 GMT -5
Aww ... thanks Telpeath! That was a fun debate ... anymore to be said on this topic?
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Post by Telpeath on Jul 19, 2006 23:01:06 GMT -5
Well one more question, who has the other palantir. I know Sauron has one and Sauroman Had one...but where did the others go. I heard something about one in Valinor, but non in middle earth could see that one.
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Post by Haldir on Jul 20, 2006 9:02:55 GMT -5
Hm ... I know that a great many were missing...
But I think Denethor also had one.
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Post by Telpeath on Jul 20, 2006 9:29:55 GMT -5
Well, I thought I read somewhere that there was one in Amon Hen, but that was just a rumor I heard.
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Post by Haldir on Jul 20, 2006 9:37:20 GMT -5
There were seven ... from what I know, there were three in Amon Sûl, Osgiliath and Annúminas ... all three were destroyed or lost. The one in the Tower Hills was brought to Aman with Frodo and his the ship that brought him to Aman ... The Anor and Orthanc ones and maybe the one in Barad-dur still survived ... into the Fourth Age
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Post by Miluiel Greenleaf on Jul 23, 2006 16:12:02 GMT -5
Yeah I was rather confused the first time I heard about the "Lost Seeings Stones" Because I was like, "How the frig is it lost?!?!?!?! It's right there!"
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Post by Eyalan on Aug 8, 2006 10:04:51 GMT -5
I wonder where the Palentir came from originally. Who made them? Does anyone know?
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Post by Luthien on Aug 25, 2006 18:00:11 GMT -5
They were brought from Numenor. I believe they were a gift from the Eldar to men. They were originally made by Feanor.
Their original locations are: Emyn Beriad, Amon Sul, Annuminas, Minas Ithil, Minas Anor, Orthanc (Saruman's tower), and Osgiliath
Aragorn could control the stone more than the others because he was a Numenorian and it was his people who originally learned to control them- Well, sorta. Anybody can look in the stones and see the areas around the other stones- The Numenorians can make the stones show them whatever they want to see.
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Post by Telpeath on Aug 30, 2006 16:58:15 GMT -5
Yes, I should have remembered that! Thank you for that interpretation! Thanks so much for helping!
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