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Post by Eyalan on Sept 14, 2006 19:41:34 GMT -5
Have anyone noticed in the scene on the Extended version of Two Towers, at the brief funeral scene for Theodred, it included Eowyn's singing as well? I never noticed it, I just read it somewhere on the internet, but I would love to see that scene again. The only problem is, I don´t have my own copy of The EE of Two Towers. I borrowed it at the time.
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Post by Anwyn on Sept 15, 2006 9:59:49 GMT -5
I found this scene hosted online at youtube youtube.com/watch?v=fqpbb625zNcAt first, I really didn't like it, but the strength of the scene and just the look of Theodens face as what has happened comes down on him, it just makes it all so powerful.
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Post by Miluiel Greenleaf on Sept 16, 2006 15:37:38 GMT -5
Yeah. I noticed there's a really deep affection for cousins in LOTR. I mean, look at Gimli and his cousin (the one who was buried in Moria) and wasn't Arwen a cousin to Legolas somehow?
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Post by Eyalan on Sept 17, 2006 0:49:35 GMT -5
Thanks so much for that link! I never saw it before, so I guess I missed that part.. strange! I think that is one terrible good piece of acting Miranda performs there! And the singing is also well done! Perhaps a little off topic, but did Gandalf have to wear his white robe at an occasion like this?? I'm not sure about Arwen being related to Legolas.. could be, but I have to look that one up.
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Post by Miluiel Greenleaf on Sept 17, 2006 8:43:51 GMT -5
Yes, me as well. LOL (Gandalf comment). Well, that's another thing to look up, I suppose. Can a white wizard ever change the colour of his clothes? When he was Gandalf the Grey, he never did. But that's a tricky question, I suppose.
And no problem about the links thing! I know its a lot different now. If my cousin died, I wouldn't be happy, but the level of greif that Gimli, for example, showed for his dead cousin, was unbelieveable. But then again, he probably knew his cousins a lot better than I know mine. After all, hadn't his cousin been one of the dwarves in the Hobbit? I'm off topic again. Darn it. Anyway, yes, Miranda has a great voice! And that was really powerful the way she was clearly trying to sing through her tears. A very touching LOTR moment.
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Post by Anwyn on Sept 19, 2006 15:30:45 GMT -5
Thats so true, and a good point. When I first heard it, I was burying my head under a pillow becuase it sounded so bad at the time, but you can see that it was meant to be very emotional. When translated it talks about a father and his son, and them hunting together. Its actually very sweet, but I know that after someone close to me, as Eowyn was to her cousin, I can barely speak never mind trying to sing. Not that I can sing anyways ;D
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Post by Miluiel Greenleaf on Sept 19, 2006 15:45:27 GMT -5
LOL neither can I. She said something about "Meduselde (with accent over the e)" or something like that. Referring to Meduseld?
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Post by Anwyn on Sept 19, 2006 16:00:53 GMT -5
Yup, Meduseld is mentioned
The lyrics are
Bealocwealm hafa ?e frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gl?enn sorgiende on Meduselde...
Which translates back to
An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing sorrowing minstrels in Meduseld..
Looks like I was wrong about my earlier assessment, but I was certain that I had seen that somewhere.
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Post by Miluiel Greenleaf on Sept 19, 2006 18:22:59 GMT -5
Hmm. It would serve just as well.
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Post by Eyalan on Oct 2, 2006 10:35:33 GMT -5
It's beautifull! And I agree on the hard-to-sing-at-times-like-these-statement, I can't imagine I'd be able to do that. On the other hand, in war perhaps you think different about death.
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Post by Tulmind on Oct 2, 2006 17:30:22 GMT -5
I HATE IT SHES SO ANNOYING!!!!! SHE COMPLETLY MESSES UP EVERTHING WITH THAT WACKED OUT SONG!!!
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Post by Eyalan on Oct 2, 2006 21:32:22 GMT -5
^ Oh look, we've actually got our very own 'hater'
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Post by Tulmind on Oct 3, 2006 15:02:25 GMT -5
thats right i hate it!!! its supposed to be emotianol until....
BELL THOUGHG WHETH!!!!!!
I WANT TO KILL HER!!!
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Post by Lomion on Oct 5, 2006 5:44:10 GMT -5
It sounded a bit Anglo-Saxon or Viking to me, I could imagine a noble-woman chanting, rather than singing, at the death of a warrior.
Legolas was of the House of Oropher, who was a noble of Doriath, apparently a kinsman of Thingol, like Celeborn, so since Thingol was Luthiens father, and Arwen was descended from Luthien, there might have been a kinship between them .
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Post by Tulmind on Oct 5, 2006 17:52:10 GMT -5
who is luthien?
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